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Story of a Song:
Hiroshima Nagasaki Russian Roulette, by Jim Page

interview by Robert Allen



Lyrics to Hiroshima Nagasaki Russian Roulette, by Jim Page



"Way back in the mid 70's we had a governor here in Washington state named Dixie Lee Ray. She had been chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission under Nixon and was full of herself. She loved nuclear power and hated environmentalists, and she invited everyone to send their waste here to Washington to be dumped at the Hanford site. She was famous for her superiority complex and would ask for your credentials if you challenged her on anything. Well, the Hanford site leaked and every once in a while it would hit the papers and the environmentalists would get on her case. One time after a particularly embarrassing incident she made the announcement that she was going to close Hanford until this could be taken care of. It was a startling proclamation. The next day on the local news there was a doctor from the University Of Washington cancer hospital saying that they would have to stop treating people because they now had no way to deal with the low-level isotopes that they used. Everybody's sick mother was held hostage and the response was instantaneous. Hanford was immediately reopened.

I was having a heated discussion about this with a friend of mine when it occurred to me that if you get exposed to too much radiation you would likely get cancer and that they would then treat you with radiation. And that all these power plants, unstable and poorly built as they are, were accidents waiting to happen. It was like playing Russian Roulette, that strange game where a gun is passed around with only one bullet in it and everybody puts it up to their head, bets are taken, and the lucky winner loses. Only this was a nuclear version. This was Hiroshima-Nagasaki Russian Roulette. I wrote the song that night (in 1974).

Several years later, in 1979, I was in Ireland at the Ballisodare Festival. I had learned that there was a strong anti-nuclear movement in the country mobilized to try to stop a power plant and uranium mining. I figured that if I could get an encore I would then play Hiroshima and it would get heard. It worked. Christy Moore was there and he asked for the lyrics so he could sing it. And I was invited down to the Carnsore Point Anti-Nuclear Festival that next weekend.

Soon Christy put together an electric band called The Moving Hearts, and they took the country by storm. Their first big song was Hiroshima, which they had adopted for their seven piece rock/folk/jazz sound. It was recorded on their first album which entered the charts at number one. It remained a signature song in their repertoire for the duration of Christy's involvement with the band, and after leaving he continued to use it in his solo shows. It has since become almost a part of Irish folk culture, like another drop of water in a big river. And the success of the anti-nuclear campaign gives the whole story its depth, a demention of struggle and music. Maybe a song can be a weapon after all.

Then I found out that there was a big anti-nuclear movement in Ireland and that there was, in fact, a major gathering planned for the following week. So I figured if I could get an encore in my second set, the next day, I would play Hiroshima-Nagasaki Russian Roulette. It worked. On my way up to the stage I got a little nip of whiskey to calm my nerves and settled into things. I don't remember what my last song was but I got my encore and did the Hiroshima song. The place went wild and I was brought out for another song. I was invited to the anti-nuclear gathering coming up at Carnsore point (http://www.iol.ie/~pcassidy/carnsore/welcome.html), and changed my return ticket so I could go to it. The door had opened.

My first national tour was opening for Planxty, a wonderful four-piece folk band with Christy Moore, Donal Luny, Andy Irvine and Liam O'Flynn. It wasn't until the second show that I had sense enough to get nervous. Planxty were like the Rolling Stones of Irish music. The gigs were great - high energy and always wild. We wound up doing an incredible unrehearsed version of Hiroshima at the end, and they had me playing guitar on some reels.

Hiroshima had this amazing pipe and sax duet in the middle of it that made it an instant classic. I practically stopped playing the song after hearing it. Landlord was severely re-arranged but I got used to it - it was like a halloween piece instead of the blues thing I had made. The folk process.

I remember sitting in the Baggot Inn one night when they were playing. They played there two nights a week for ages. The place was jammed like always. I was talking with a traditional singer friend of mine. "How do you like the band,?" I asked her. "I don't like them," she said, "politics and music don't mix." I didn't say anything, just nodded. The place was packed every time they played there. Their album was released at number one. Politics and music seemed to be mixing very well."

–   Jim Page interviewed by Robert Allen



Jim Page was interviewed by Robert Allen. A full interview-feature with the man will appear in a forthcoming edition.

Jim Page has been writing and singing songs professionally for over 30 years. Originally from the California Bay Area he wound up in Seattle by way of New York City in the early 1970s. Soon after hitting Seattle, he led the movement to successfully legalize street singing in 1974 and sang his case to the Seattle City Council and a packed Council Chambers of cheering free speech advocates, friends and the wildly curious. A Shot of the Usual was released in 1977 on his own label and received considerable acclaim. A circuitous, tree-lined, sometimes rocky and wonderful road of people and music unfurled in front of Jim. The intervening years, he has said, "include too many records, compilations, awards, arrests, lost and found lovers, grammy nominations, near death experiences, and prancing ponies to begin to list". His 17th full-length recording, Human Interesting, is a portrait of a journey through over 30 years of Jim's musical incarnations. His music is available from his website .


Robert Allen is the author of Dioxin War: Truth & Lies About A Perfect Poison, Pluto Press, London/Ann Arbor/Dublin and University of Michigan, US, published in July 2004. Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.com.

Book Description

This is a book about Dioxin, one of the most poisonous chemicals known to humanity. It was the toxic component of Agent Orange, used by the US military to defoliate huge tracts of Vietnam during the war in the 60s and 70s.

It can be found in pesticides, plastics, solvents, detergents and cosmetics. Dioxin has been revealed as a human carcinogen, and has been associated with heart disease, liver damage, hormonal disruption, reproductive disorders, developmental destruction and neurological impairment.

The Dioxin War is the story of the people who fought to reveal the truth about dioxin. Huge multinationals Dow and Monsanto both manufactured Agent Orange. Robert Allen reveals the attempts by the chemical industry, in collusion with regulatory and health authorities, to cover up the true impact of dioxin on human health. He tells the remarkable story of how a small, dedicated group of people managed to bring the truth about dioxin into the public domain and into the courts - and win.


Robert Allen is the author of No Global: The People of Ireland versus the Multinationals, Pluto Press, London/Ann Arbor/Dublin, published in April 2004. Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.com.

Book Description

Ireland's economy has seen phenomenal growth since the 1990s, as a result of an earlier decision by the state to chase foreign investment, largely from US corporates. As a result, manufacturers of raw chemicals, pharmaceuticals and highly dangerous substances came to Ireland, where they could make toxic products free from the strict controls imposed by other nations.

Robert Allen's book reveals the consequences to human health and the environment of the Irish state's love affair with the multinational chemical industry. The cost to Irish society was a series of ecological and social outrages, starting in the 1970s and continuing into the 2000s.

No Global is a lesson for countries who seek to encourage multinationals at the expense of the health their population and the delicate nature of their ecosystems. It is also a heart-warming record of the successful campaigns fought by local people to protect themselves and their environment from polluting industry






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